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we have talked a lot about the nra and how the nra has 4 million members. something like 47% of u.s. house holds report that they own a gun. that is a lot more than 4 million. the nra is concerned about rival gun rights organizations. the gun owners of america is an organization that claims to be more hard core and more solutist and it has 300,000 members. the nra represents a minority of gun owners in the united states and they are concerned about being outflanked in terms of the strength with which they defend gun rights. the truth is there are a ton of gun owners. when the nra goes off and has an ad of that nature they are not necessarily representing real gun owners. they are representing a much smaller group and they are concerned about it being seen as too moderate. >> the president of the nra defended the ad. i want to play his defense before you jump in here. >> the fact of the matter is that the schools in washington that are attended by the elites, not just the president's daughters but the sons and daughters of others are protected by armed secur
we have talked a lot about the nra and how the nra has 4 million members. something like 47% of u.s. house holds report that they own a gun. that is a lot more than 4 million. the nra is concerned about rival gun rights organizations. the gun owners of america is an organization that claims to be more hard core and more solutist and it has 300,000 members. the nra represents a minority of gun owners in the united states and they are concerned about being outflanked in terms of the strength with...
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he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given that issue over to them because they have lobbyists they pay money. in the end, the people determine the outcome. and it's wrong, and it's racist and it's bigoted to say that guns are quintessentially american. they may represent a part of america, but my grandparents who came over from poland and live in brooklyn, new york, are just as much americans, people who came over from ireland, people who came over from italy, we're just as much americans. we live on the coast and we have a right to define the america we want to live in and we have the obligation to win politically, to vote for people to put gun control as a high
he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given...
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you know the nra leadership at times defers from the nra membership. the truth is, there are nra members who are willing to maybe reasonable concessions. >> name one republican member of congress who is for any form of gun control today. >> some of the few from remaining from the northeast. >> and mark kirk and susan collins. you can go through the list flt by the way. this is not a republican and democratic issue. >> john boehner, having been humiliated in this situation is going to have to find a situation in which he would allow a vote in the house. and his own majority is impossible to imagine that happening. >> what do you think is going to happen? >> nothing. >> the obama administration is going to tee it up and bring it to 2014. i think they do believe that the politics of this have shifted enough that they can make some republicans pay a price for not being willing to hold a vote. >> the democrats not mauled at the polls afterwards and a lot of people remember that and you are right, a lot of democrats don't want to touch this issue either. but
you know the nra leadership at times defers from the nra membership. the truth is, there are nra members who are willing to maybe reasonable concessions. >> name one republican member of congress who is for any form of gun control today. >> some of the few from remaining from the northeast. >> and mark kirk and susan collins. you can go through the list flt by the way. this is not a republican and democratic issue. >> john boehner, having been humiliated in this...
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the nra is going to be dwarfed. they are not by any means the largest special interests in politics. and the reality, charles, the one thing you have to acknowledge when we talk about the politics of this, is that the assault on weapons ban wasn't renewed in 2004, and democrats, largely credit, not large -- but credit in part their loss of congress in 1994 to the pass on the assault weapons ban. the truth is, this isn't, as you point out, anderson, a partisan issue. this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is somethi
the nra is going to be dwarfed. they are not by any means the largest special interests in politics. and the reality, charles, the one thing you have to acknowledge when we talk about the politics of this, is that the assault on weapons ban wasn't renewed in 2004, and democrats, largely credit, not large -- but credit in part their loss of congress in 1994 to the pass on the assault weapons ban. the truth is, this isn't, as you point out, anderson, a partisan issue. this is gun owners -- the...
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this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if see their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is something that hit a chord with the american public, where people are evaluating, okay, to what extent am i willing to balance my right to have a gun, my right to with what makes sense -- >> so you think -- >> i think something has changed after newtown. i think the will of the populous has changed. when the rubber hits the wheel in washington, it's still going to be difficult. you have the practicality of the debt crisis. the sequester hasn't even been handled, let alone immigration, which the president promised to do. i don't kn
this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if see their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i...
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why is the nra so strong, aaron? >> well, i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coasts are very much pro gun control but the middle of the country, even a lot of the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially, are very pro-gun rights. so, you know, we see in the last few days here even senators -- democrat senators like max baucus from montana, even al franken from minnesota hesitated at first to endorse the assault weapons ban. i think this is just a very tough issue for these politicians to deal with, particularly in the middle of the country and when that happens, their reflex often is to vote no. >> roland, one thing that amazed me in this, not just the membership, was the favorability rating. because it seemed to me, and being there in newtown, that something had changed in this country. that something had changed in every single one of us to see what happened there happen. yet after newtown, 41% of americans view the organization favorably. that is
why is the nra so strong, aaron? >> well, i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coasts are very much pro gun control but the middle of the country, even a lot of the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially, are very pro-gun rights. so, you know, we see in the last few days here even senators -- democrat senators like max baucus from montana, even al franken from minnesota hesitated at first to endorse the assault weapons...
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gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your argument on nra is based on money. doesn't their influence go far beyond just the dollars they may spend? to your point, they have 4 million members who are very vocal and very energized and who go out and vote and who in local districts would be very upset if they see their congressman or their senator -- >> but isn't that then a representation of the populace rather than just this special interest group? isn't it representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is something that hit a chord with the american public where people are evaluating, okay, to what extent am i willing to balance my right to have a gun, my right to hunt with what makes sense in terms of -- >> so you think -- >> i think something has changed after newtown. >> so you think some form of legislation may be possible? >> i think in terms of the will of the populac
gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your argument on nra is based on money. doesn't their influence go far beyond just the dollars they may spend? to your point, they have 4 million members who are very vocal and very energized and who go out and vote and who in local districts would be very upset if they see their congressman or their senator -- >> but isn't that then a representation of the populace rather than just this special interest group? isn't it representing the...
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you know, the nra leadership defers to the nra membership. there are reasonable americans who are responsible gun owners, like gabrielle giffords and her husband. they are willing to make reasonable concessions. >> name one republican in congress who is willing to make any changes to gun control? >> there are a lot of -- it's not a matter of democratic and republican issue. >> the biggest obstacle is john boehner. john boehner who was humiliated in the fiscal cliff situation, he needs a vote in the house where most of his republicans would not support it. and it's impossible to imagine that happen. >> so what do you think will happen? >> the obama administration will tee it up, do executive action and bring it to 2014. i do think they believe that the politics shifted enough, they can make some republicans pay a price that they would not even be willing to vote. >> but remember, in 1994, the assault weapons bill passed and the democrats got mauled at the polls after that. and a lot of people remember that, especially in the west and the south
you know, the nra leadership defers to the nra membership. there are reasonable americans who are responsible gun owners, like gabrielle giffords and her husband. they are willing to make reasonable concessions. >> name one republican in congress who is willing to make any changes to gun control? >> there are a lot of -- it's not a matter of democratic and republican issue. >> the biggest obstacle is john boehner. john boehner who was humiliated in the fiscal cliff situation,...
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why is the nra so strong? >> i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coless are very much pro-gun control. the middle of the country, even a lot of the the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially are very pro-gun rights. so we see in the last few days here, even senators, democratic senators like baucus from montana, franken, he is dated to endorse the assault weapons ban. this is a tough issue for politicians to deal with, particularly in the middle of the country. when that happens their reflex is often to vote no. >> roland, one thing that amazed me, was the favorability rating. it seemed to me, and being there in newtown, that something had changed in this country, that something had changed in every single one of us, to see what happened there happen. yet after newtown, 41% of americans view the organization favorably. that is unchanged from two years ago. that is unchanged. how is the nra not taking a hit? >> here's the deal. because people
why is the nra so strong? >> i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coless are very much pro-gun control. the middle of the country, even a lot of the the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially are very pro-gun rights. so we see in the last few days here, even senators, democratic senators like baucus from montana, franken, he is dated to endorse the assault weapons ban. this is a tough issue for politicians to deal with,...
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house and the nra. here to talk about it cnn contributor and consultant margaret hoover, charles blowe and david gergen. david, when you look at these proposals, are some of them non-starters? >> i think first of all, we have to say, anderson, many times in the past we have complained about a lack of leadership by president obama. this time he has stepped up. he is taking the lead. this is what a president who is really is committed does. >> he went big. >> he went big. you have to give him credit for that. his problem is that he is handicapped. he doesn't have enough power through the executive office to do this alone. most of these are small bore initiatives that he is going to do on his own. he needs the congress to get this done. and so far we have to bring politics into this, because this is a political matter in this tragedy. and so far he just does not have the public support. he can get the background checks done. i think that is very doable this year. but anderson, he doesn't have the support i
house and the nra. here to talk about it cnn contributor and consultant margaret hoover, charles blowe and david gergen. david, when you look at these proposals, are some of them non-starters? >> i think first of all, we have to say, anderson, many times in the past we have complained about a lack of leadership by president obama. this time he has stepped up. he is taking the lead. this is what a president who is really is committed does. >> he went big. >> he went big. you...
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need to stand up for nra. the nra just played played specifically into that strategy. >> i think we all agree on that. >> and they're wrong on the facts. the president basically said not that he is opposed to having more armed guards in schools, he is just saying he is skeptical that solves the problem in schools. and in fact the white house kept proposing more money for the safe schools program. and it was congress in 2012 that killed that money in congress. and if you look at the proposal they put forth today, they basically say, they explicitly say that if some schools want to have more armed guards, that's up to them. but we want to leave to it the local districts to decide on their own. >> which interesting, because you now have the nra arguing -- >> for larger government. >> for larger federal government, putting armed people like government troops into schools. as opposed to leaving them -- >> the nra came out with a proposal to put guards in schools, everybody from the president's party dumped on them.
need to stand up for nra. the nra just played played specifically into that strategy. >> i think we all agree on that. >> and they're wrong on the facts. the president basically said not that he is opposed to having more armed guards in schools, he is just saying he is skeptical that solves the problem in schools. and in fact the white house kept proposing more money for the safe schools program. and it was congress in 2012 that killed that money in congress. and if you look at the...
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highlighting nra intransigence is part of the strategy. the new poll hints at momentum for change may be starting to fade. 56% now favor an assault weapons ban compared to 62% immediately after newtown. 58% support a ban on extended magazines. last month, that was 62%. however, expanded background checks remains popular with 87% supporting checks on gun show purchases. we'll have more on the politics shortly. first, the personal two takes on what happened at the white house today. lexi holler, the uncle of noah posner joins us along with colin goddard. colin was shot four times in a classroom at virginia tech. >> alexei, i was wondering what your reaction was to what you heard. >> well, based on what we heard before, the announcement when the families met with the president and the vice president and during the announcement itself, i was satisfied and pleased to see that the administration is treating this so seriously. i think the strong sense i got was that they were determined to make a major change here and to enact significant reforms
highlighting nra intransigence is part of the strategy. the new poll hints at momentum for change may be starting to fade. 56% now favor an assault weapons ban compared to 62% immediately after newtown. 58% support a ban on extended magazines. last month, that was 62%. however, expanded background checks remains popular with 87% supporting checks on gun show purchases. we'll have more on the politics shortly. first, the personal two takes on what happened at the white house today. lexi holler,...
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the second thing is that the nra is basically a no regulation organization. they don't want any new regulations of any sort. and none of the gun, i don't call them gun rights groups, but gun proliferation groups, because that is the business they are in, to make sure that there are more guns produced, sold and in public hands. and i think that, that pushing in that direction is actual think wrong direction for us to go, because they will not only -- there will be people who most people who buy a gun will use it responsibly. but the more guns that are out there, the more likely guns will be able to fall into the hands of the criminals, and that becomes the problem. >> okay. well, the debate will carry on and i will have you back soon. dana loeshe and charles blow. thank you both very much. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. try capzasin-hp. it penetrates deep to block pain signals for hours of relie
the second thing is that the nra is basically a no regulation organization. they don't want any new regulations of any sort. and none of the gun, i don't call them gun rights groups, but gun proliferation groups, because that is the business they are in, to make sure that there are more guns produced, sold and in public hands. and i think that, that pushing in that direction is actual think wrong direction for us to go, because they will not only -- there will be people who most people who buy...
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sometimes it will make the nra uncomfortable. sometimes it will make people who are anti-gun uncomfortable, but we would be a healthier country if we could have a fact-based conversation. >> does it concern you, the high-volume magazine cartridges that are available, some of the military-style weapons that people can have? do you think that should be part of the discussion? is that on the table? do you think there should be some changes there? >> i think we should look at all these things, but again, i would just suggest to you that in fact almost none of the killings in chicago, the deadliest place in america, almost none of those killings involved any kind of exotic weapon. they involved a system which is broken down, where the police have broken down, where the process is broken down. and so i would start and say, you know, the total number of use of those kind of devices you're talking about in the entire country is very, very small. and had there been an armed guard at that school, the odds are that by the second or third sh
sometimes it will make the nra uncomfortable. sometimes it will make people who are anti-gun uncomfortable, but we would be a healthier country if we could have a fact-based conversation. >> does it concern you, the high-volume magazine cartridges that are available, some of the military-style weapons that people can have? do you think that should be part of the discussion? is that on the table? do you think there should be some changes there? >> i think we should look at all these...
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tonight, major nra flip-flop. at a hearing today, the head of the gun group shared his thoughts on background checks and as you might guess, he is against them. but, he wasn't always. jim acosta has the story. >> please, i'm not trying to play games here. >> it flared up early when patrick leahy grilled lapierre over background checks. >> you do not support mandatory background checks in all instances at gun shows? >> we do not because the fact is, law right now is a failure the way it's working. >> as it turns out, he was for background checks at gun shows before he was against them. and said so in 1999. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> when he was reminded of that line -- >> now, you do not support background checks for all firearms. >> i think the check system the way it's working now is a failure. >> lapierre's argument -- >> the problem with gun laws is criminals don't cooperate with them
tonight, major nra flip-flop. at a hearing today, the head of the gun group shared his thoughts on background checks and as you might guess, he is against them. but, he wasn't always. jim acosta has the story. >> please, i'm not trying to play games here. >> it flared up early when patrick leahy grilled lapierre over background checks. >> you do not support mandatory background checks in all instances at gun shows? >> we do not because the fact is, law right now is a...
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why are republicans so afraid of the nra? do they work for the nra or the american people? >> well, generally believe it or not, a lot of republicans are americans. and what they would really like us to do something that works: for example, how many of these horrible crimes that we've seen, aurora, newtown, how many of those crimes are committed at gun shows? none. >> columbine. >> those guns were bought at gun shows. >> those were kids. those were kids who have broken a ton of laws anyway. we have a ton of laws to get those things off the books already. wolf, the vast majority, nearly all of them are stolen. criminals generally don't like to do a lot of paperwork. so promising the american people a real solution, for example, the high-capacity magazine. that sounds great. and if you love mayor bloomberg in new york and you think that banning 32-ounce sodas is going to make american people skinnier, because you believe, what, they are never going to figure out they could buy two 16-ounce sodas? you are going to love the high-capacity ban. >> why? >> are you saying that a cr
why are republicans so afraid of the nra? do they work for the nra or the american people? >> well, generally believe it or not, a lot of republicans are americans. and what they would really like us to do something that works: for example, how many of these horrible crimes that we've seen, aurora, newtown, how many of those crimes are committed at gun shows? none. >> columbine. >> those guns were bought at gun shows. >> those were kids. those were kids who have broken a...
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and wasn't to ask ye have to ta nra. the nra ad just came out, pretty controversial. i want to point out to our viewers, this ad is only running on the sportsmen cable network, about a third of the homes in the u.s. here is a clip. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids -- >> here is my question to you. you hear this voice talking about armed security in schools. interesting the nra is choosing to focus on that sliver of this whole argument versus taking on, you know, something much broader, that the president mentioned today. ie an assault weapons ban. you surprised by that? >> you know, i was initially surprised by that. what i can tell you is that, you know, time and cnn will have polling out later this afternoon, and one thing people might find is that arming guards in schools is more popular than i think a lot of people -- a lot of people i know who first reacted to that nra press conference a few weeks ago really appreciated. it is actually not an unpopular idea an
and wasn't to ask ye have to ta nra. the nra ad just came out, pretty controversial. i want to point out to our viewers, this ad is only running on the sportsmen cable network, about a third of the homes in the u.s. here is a clip. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids -- >> here is my question to you. you hear this voice talking about armed security in schools. interesting the nra is...
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avery -- >> it's the influence of the nra. the reason there's immunity is the nra's influence over the congress. that's what the battle's about. whether or not the nra can block this is the political issue, not legal one. i think they will. i don't think it will ever get out of committee. unfortunately. >> richard, i take it you agree with that or think it has a snowball's chance? >> yeah. i think the nra lobby is extremely powerful. look how -- they got this passed in 2005, miguel. so very powerful. it makes no sense to me at all. yet, look, this is how it goes. all politics. >> it would certainly be good for you lawyers if it passed. you guys would have never-ending work, it seems. >> against the bad guys. >> of course against the bad guy. >>> let's switch gears and talk about a dog named avery, no, not the lawyer, avery. avery is a spotted mixed breed who escaped from his owners and ended up in the animal shelter. workers there promised to hold him until his owners could pick him up. unfortunately, he was put to death inste
avery -- >> it's the influence of the nra. the reason there's immunity is the nra's influence over the congress. that's what the battle's about. whether or not the nra can block this is the political issue, not legal one. i think they will. i don't think it will ever get out of committee. unfortunately. >> richard, i take it you agree with that or think it has a snowball's chance? >> yeah. i think the nra lobby is extremely powerful. look how -- they got this passed in 2005,...
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his view to the nra. each ring true. each side can point to real-life incident to prove their point. and in a moment we will talk to general stanley mcchrystal on his view. but first, randi kaye. take a look. >> reporter: if you wonder whether or not real people with guns really do help prevent gun violence look no further than the shooting in this theater in december. and 9:30 a.m., december 17th, 19-year-old garcia allegedly opened fire at the restaurant. police say when the employees fled, the shooter chased after them in the parking lot firing at them. in the chaos he also shot at a san antonio patrol car after the officer shined a light on them. >> he was having a difficult time dealing with the breakup and that's what may have set him off to come over here and commit this act. >> garcia followed the employees into the mayan palace movie theater next door. he kept shooting as they poured out the exit doors. >> i'm glad i'm okay and i have another day with my son. >> one of the fleeing patrons was wounded but so many
his view to the nra. each ring true. each side can point to real-life incident to prove their point. and in a moment we will talk to general stanley mcchrystal on his view. but first, randi kaye. take a look. >> reporter: if you wonder whether or not real people with guns really do help prevent gun violence look no further than the shooting in this theater in december. and 9:30 a.m., december 17th, 19-year-old garcia allegedly opened fire at the restaurant. police say when the employees...
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he says, "simple, nra pours funds into lawmakers that support their views." from kathleen, "it is no one's business if i own a gun." this from chris. "i am all for gun control, but creating a database for all the registered gun owners sounds like the most ridiculous move towards gun control. couldn't criminals just use that database if they wanted to see who not to rob?" keep the conversation going. facebook.com/carolcnn or tweet me @carolcnn. isurprise...it's eating less. to losing weight. i'm hungry just thinking about it. thank goodness for new slimful. one delicious, 90-calorie slimful and a glass of water, like before dinner, helps keep me satisfied for hours. so instead of this much, i only need this much. and slimful tastso good... i don't even miss dessert. slimful and a glass of water... eating less is a beautiful thing. >>> we are keeping an eye on what's happening in lower manhattan. at pier 11, that's by wall street on the east river, a ferry has run hard into a dock. there's a big, gaping hole in the front of the boat. as you can see, passengers
he says, "simple, nra pours funds into lawmakers that support their views." from kathleen, "it is no one's business if i own a gun." this from chris. "i am all for gun control, but creating a database for all the registered gun owners sounds like the most ridiculous move towards gun control. couldn't criminals just use that database if they wanted to see who not to rob?" keep the conversation going. facebook.com/carolcnn or tweet me @carolcnn. isurprise...it's...
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the nra is against any type of assault weapons ban. they say it wasn't effected in 1994 when it was put into effect and puts dangerous weapons into the hands of criminals who essentially don't follow the law, something else that could be part of this legislation is creating a registry for any weapons that were obtained before this ban goes in place, and a speech this week one of the nra's eleader's's wayne lapierre says that was totally unacceptable to the nra. >> dianne feinstein's conference is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. eastern, about two hours from now. >>> the military is making a major change, for the first time in history women will be allowed to serve on the front lines but don't expect to see changes right away. pentagon correspondent chris lawrence tells us why. >> reporter: army infantry, marine recon, even special ops, on thursday, they all opened to women for the first time. the pentagon is eliminating its ban on women in combat, but there's a catch. did you know today's army would be so different than the one you joined? >>
the nra is against any type of assault weapons ban. they say it wasn't effected in 1994 when it was put into effect and puts dangerous weapons into the hands of criminals who essentially don't follow the law, something else that could be part of this legislation is creating a registry for any weapons that were obtained before this ban goes in place, and a speech this week one of the nra's eleader's's wayne lapierre says that was totally unacceptable to the nra. >> dianne feinstein's...
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>> we are just learning that james jay baker will be representing the nra. he's been with the nra in leadership roles off and on since the 1980s and was a campaign for john mccain in his failed bid for the presidency. wolf? >> lisa, thank you very much. we'll be anxious to see what the task force comes up with, what the president says in the state of the union address before congress. thank you. lisa, thank you very much for that report. >>> the obama administration may be stepping up its push for some form of new gun control legislation. but will the president be able to rally the support of congress? most importantly, the american public at the same time? we'll dig deeper with our chief political analyst gloria borger. here's what the president recently said on "meet the press." i'll play the clip. >> we're not going to get this done unless the american people decide it's important. and so this is not going to be simply a matter of me spending political capital. one of the things that you learn, having now been in this office for four years, is the old ada
>> we are just learning that james jay baker will be representing the nra. he's been with the nra in leadership roles off and on since the 1980s and was a campaign for john mccain in his failed bid for the presidency. wolf? >> lisa, thank you very much. we'll be anxious to see what the task force comes up with, what the president says in the state of the union address before congress. thank you. lisa, thank you very much for that report. >>> the obama administration may be...
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i know the nra is probably already out there. you probably saw that new ad that they just put out attacking the president and his two daughters. that's crazy. everybody knows that the president and his family have to be protected. but to try to push that over on to the, their probably most radical members of the nra, that's now how the general public feels. i believe we can do it. this time it is different. this time it's gone to the heart of every mother, father, gra grandparent thinking about their children, grandchildren. we have to do something. all these mass killings and the killings that happen every single day, as the president said, 900 people have died since the day that sandy hook happened. that's too many of our people. i'm speaking as a nurse. it's cost us over $200 billion a year for those that survive. and for everything that we need to do to protect our cities and our communities. >> congresswoman, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you for covering this story. >> thank you. carolyn mccarthy is the democrat
i know the nra is probably already out there. you probably saw that new ad that they just put out attacking the president and his two daughters. that's crazy. everybody knows that the president and his family have to be protected. but to try to push that over on to the, their probably most radical members of the nra, that's now how the general public feels. i believe we can do it. this time it is different. this time it's gone to the heart of every mother, father, gra grandparent thinking about...
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we have representatives of the brady campaign and a board member of the nra. people who have been affected by gun violence, people have used guns to protect themselves and their families. we wanted this to try to be a discussion and get a lot of different view points in and see if there are any common grounds between those who are great advocates for more gun control and advocates for gun rights opposed to greater gun control or greater background check. so we wanted to try to look for common ground and not just look at guns but also mental health issues and where that is in the equation and school safety issues. it's going to be an interesting discussion tonight, wolf. >> i'm really looking forward to it. i hope you find common ground. this is a critically, critically important issue for our entire country. anderson's town hall tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern, only here on cnn. >>> up next, a catastrophic flooding taking an enormous economic toll on australia and they have an impact felt around the world. ake someone happy.♪ ♪it's so important to make someone
we have representatives of the brady campaign and a board member of the nra. people who have been affected by gun violence, people have used guns to protect themselves and their families. we wanted this to try to be a discussion and get a lot of different view points in and see if there are any common grounds between those who are great advocates for more gun control and advocates for gun rights opposed to greater gun control or greater background check. so we wanted to try to look for common...
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. >> that is what the weapons r people like alex jones, nra and others, they shout so regularly, they frame the argument, they are trying to grab our guns, i don't want to change the second amendment. i don't want to change the person's right to defend their home. i want to get rid of the killing machines. get rid of them. >> guns don't kill people, people kill people. yes, try killing that many people in such a short amount of time with a hammer or knife. >> in the same week of sandy hook, a manman in china attacked a school. and stabbed 22 children. they all lived. that is all you need to know. had he had a gun, they would all be dead. guns kill that is their only purpose. >> patrick and i come from a family that have been affected. those people in aurora and sandy hook, they will be affected for years to come. and those people, demanding the rights to have those guns, for those that are suffering is disconcerting. >> are you surprised, in following the assassinations of john f. kennedy, of bobby kennedy, where we are in a country now, that mass shootings are happening with regulari
. >> that is what the weapons r people like alex jones, nra and others, they shout so regularly, they frame the argument, they are trying to grab our guns, i don't want to change the second amendment. i don't want to change the person's right to defend their home. i want to get rid of the killing machines. get rid of them. >> guns don't kill people, people kill people. yes, try killing that many people in such a short amount of time with a hammer or knife. >> in the same week...
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we have wayne lapierre of the nra and senator patrick leahy. >> talking about gun shows. should we have mandatory background check at gun shows for sales of weapons? >> if you're a dealer that's already the law. >> that's not my question, please. i'm not trying to play games here. if you could, just answer my question. >> senator, i do not believe the way the law is working now unfortunately that it does any good to extend the law to private sales between hobyists and collectors. >> you do not support mandatory background checks in all instances at gun shows? >> we do not. because the fact is the law right now is a failure the way it's working. >> joe, how is it playing out when you have opposition to universal background checks, closing the gun show loophole. is there anything here that stands a chance of passing, moving forward? >> there are people who are conservatives who say they are willing to look at universal background checks as long as the universal program doesn't infringe on the rights of average americans, law abiding, to have and possess arms. it's true that
we have wayne lapierre of the nra and senator patrick leahy. >> talking about gun shows. should we have mandatory background check at gun shows for sales of weapons? >> if you're a dealer that's already the law. >> that's not my question, please. i'm not trying to play games here. if you could, just answer my question. >> senator, i do not believe the way the law is working now unfortunately that it does any good to extend the law to private sales between hobyists and...
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>> the nra has lobbied for this and they've been public about this for some type. lobbying to try to get specific provisions into the bill. i will tell you that it was senator harry reid who ultimately got these things put into the affordable care ability. it's a small little provision which is, i think, why in part it's been overlooked. but, as you say, it done specifically forbid doctors from asking their patients about guns. but it does -- it does prohibit people writing the stuff down, using it for purposes of research or data collection, having it as part of wellness programs. he asked the nra, they say, look if people know if doctors know, health care establishments know their patients have guns, it may increase their insurance premiums, although there's been no record or history of that in the past. people who want to be able to ask these questions say this is part of how we make things safer, create more safer swimming pools, for example, smoke detectors in homes. this is part of that same path. so this is sort of the collision here, ali, between these two
>> the nra has lobbied for this and they've been public about this for some type. lobbying to try to get specific provisions into the bill. i will tell you that it was senator harry reid who ultimately got these things put into the affordable care ability. it's a small little provision which is, i think, why in part it's been overlooked. but, as you say, it done specifically forbid doctors from asking their patients about guns. but it does -- it does prohibit people writing the stuff...
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these politicians have been cowered by the nra and the gun lobby for too long. it is time they stood up and said enough. >> let's talk about the balx jones interview. you're english and i'm australian. we look at it from an outsider's perspective and some people are shocked by what they see. you have say jones' rant about despots taking away guns back fired. he says i think he meaning you handled him perfectly, sat back and let alex make his own noose. i thought the same thing when i was watching the interview. did you feel that it did back fire on him? >> honestly i possibly have put on air. alex jones represents a very extreme -- very influential, very vocal gun lobby in america. he rants like this every day to millions of americans, most of them who believes what he says. this is a guy who believes president bush, his administration, ordered the 9/11 disaster, for example. you're talking with people who are scared in their thought process. and they believe that any government that wants any form of gun control after the massacres is attacking the second amend
these politicians have been cowered by the nra and the gun lobby for too long. it is time they stood up and said enough. >> let's talk about the balx jones interview. you're english and i'm australian. we look at it from an outsider's perspective and some people are shocked by what they see. you have say jones' rant about despots taking away guns back fired. he says i think he meaning you handled him perfectly, sat back and let alex make his own noose. i thought the same thing when i was...
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. >> if you are in the meeting tomorrow with vice president biden with the nra and walmart and others, what would you be sayinging? >> that the discussion has not been going anywhere that we can tell in a productive way. we are not talking about people defending themselves precisely in these gun-free zones. hopefully, at some point, we are going to come to the realization that repeating the same policy year after year getting the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results the next time. >> right. so your solution, if you were there in that meeting, would be to arm every school, every church, every hospital, everywhere that members of the public can be? >> you certainly would want to encourage people who are qualified to carry concealed firearm to be able to do so in a school zone. right now that is illegal in all but a couple of our states and some of our institutions of higher learning. but, by and large, it's prohibited. that needs to stop because we have been using those as magnets where all of our mass murder
. >> if you are in the meeting tomorrow with vice president biden with the nra and walmart and others, what would you be sayinging? >> that the discussion has not been going anywhere that we can tell in a productive way. we are not talking about people defending themselves precisely in these gun-free zones. hopefully, at some point, we are going to come to the realization that repeating the same policy year after year getting the same deadly results is only going to get us the same...
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on the other side is the nra which has a huge grassroots organization. they are trying to mobilize their own voters. you saw that e-mail. we spoke yesterday about this provocative ad talking about the president's children are protected by people who bear arms. so you can be sure that the nra is going to continue to be just as aggressive as the obama supporters on all of this. >> you know, the reaction from republicans to what the president did yesterday, signing 23 executive orders if you will has been very intense. rick perry, the republican governor of texas saying this. the second amendment to the constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president. at least so far, we're not seeing a whole lot of opportunity for real substantive negotiations. >> no. and, of course, rick perry is a governor that once suggested that texas secede from the union and ran for the presidency himself. wolf whark we're hearing is a lot of second amendment talk the president want to take away you
on the other side is the nra which has a huge grassroots organization. they are trying to mobilize their own voters. you saw that e-mail. we spoke yesterday about this provocative ad talking about the president's children are protected by people who bear arms. so you can be sure that the nra is going to continue to be just as aggressive as the obama supporters on all of this. >> you know, the reaction from republicans to what the president did yesterday, signing 23 executive orders if you...
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talk to mayor bloomberg about the president's new proposals for gun control and what he thinks of the nra. >> marco rubio yesterday was quoted as saying, nothing that the president is proposing would have stopped the massacre at sandy hook. do you agree? >> that's probably true. a woman had guns, it wasn't her son that -- i don't know if she ever went through a background check, but the son certainly didn't. he took his mother's guns and killed people. but that doesn't mean having fewer guns around is a better idea. it's that there are people that go through traffic lights. they just run a red light. does that mean we should getid of all traffic lights? no. in a ma crosense, these laws do work. >> and the ridiculist all at the toll of the hour. erin? >> anderson, thank you very much. >>> now our fifth story "outfront." we're going to talk about manti te'o, a victim or a conspirator? the mystery deepens tonight as we learn more about how the notre dame linebacker was supposedly tricked into an online relationship with a woman who did not exist. now, our ted rowlands is "outfront" on the no
talk to mayor bloomberg about the president's new proposals for gun control and what he thinks of the nra. >> marco rubio yesterday was quoted as saying, nothing that the president is proposing would have stopped the massacre at sandy hook. do you agree? >> that's probably true. a woman had guns, it wasn't her son that -- i don't know if she ever went through a background check, but the son certainly didn't. he took his mother's guns and killed people. but that doesn't mean having...
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the nra said "the second amendment is not about shooting skeet and it's not a tradition. it's a fundamental right upheld by the u.s. supreme court." so while obama seemed to be reaching out, however awkwardly, to gun owner, the whole thing may have backfired. obama skeet shooting on target or telling? facebook.com/carolcnn, or tweet me @carolcnn. ♪ [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪ the all-new cadillac ats -- 2013 north american car of the year. ♪ for a limited time, take advantage of this exceptional offer on the all-new cadillac ats. so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning, i was able to get us a flight to our favorite climbing spot even on a holiday weekend. ♪ things are definitely looking up. [ male announcer ] with no blackout dates, you can use your citi thankyou points to travel whenever you want. visit citi.com/thankyoucards to apply.
the nra said "the second amendment is not about shooting skeet and it's not a tradition. it's a fundamental right upheld by the u.s. supreme court." so while obama seemed to be reaching out, however awkwardly, to gun owner, the whole thing may have backfired. obama skeet shooting on target or telling? facebook.com/carolcnn, or tweet me @carolcnn. ♪ [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪...
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this is something the president has said should be left to the schools, the nra says should be part of a national plan. it will be interesting given the poll numbers. the entrenched interests in washington not on the president's side. we'll see what he does there. one other thing i want to note. the president talked about how immigrants in this country should be allowed to go to school and then become the leaders of the next generation, not be deported. well, remember, it was his administration, this is the bush administration here, deportations of illegal immigrants, it was the obama administration that angered many latinos, and especially latino interest groups by increasing the number of deportations. the president is hoping now that this actually gives him some credibility as he tries to negotiate an immigration reform package with republicans. and anderson, one of the things we have seen since the election is the republicans know the math. they see the demographics of this country. they realize they have a crisis. they cannot be a viable national party if they keep getting such a
this is something the president has said should be left to the schools, the nra says should be part of a national plan. it will be interesting given the poll numbers. the entrenched interests in washington not on the president's side. we'll see what he does there. one other thing i want to note. the president talked about how immigrants in this country should be allowed to go to school and then become the leaders of the next generation, not be deported. well, remember, it was his...